Comments on: Cover Everything In Your Photography Contract http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/2009/10/05/cover-everything-in-your-photography-contract/ Jason Christopher's fashion photography blog is an instructional and informative blog geared towards all levels of photographers. Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:24:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jason Christopher http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/2009/10/05/cover-everything-in-your-photography-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-1438 Jason Christopher Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:39:30 +0000 http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/?p=742#comment-1438 You're very welcome Erika ! You’re very welcome Erika !

]]> By: Erika Hunter http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/2009/10/05/cover-everything-in-your-photography-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-1402 Erika Hunter Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:55:06 +0000 http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/?p=742#comment-1402 arr ok thankyou for your information arr ok thankyou for your information

]]> By: Jason Christopher http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/2009/10/05/cover-everything-in-your-photography-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-1390 Jason Christopher Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:52:52 +0000 http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/?p=742#comment-1390 Hi Erika, Yes there are many fake agencies out there or better yet unscrupulous agencies. Nevertheless, even if the agency is legit and DOES like your look, they actually don't pay for anything. You are responsible for paying for photo shoots, photos and even the comp cards as well as the actual portfolio book. Don't let anyone tell you any different. It was true back in the day, 30 years ago in the days of Gia, Kate Moss, Cindy Crawford etc. that the agency would pay for most everything. Now days that has all changed. Hi Erika,
Yes there are many fake agencies out there or better yet unscrupulous agencies. Nevertheless, even if the agency is legit and DOES like your look, they actually don’t pay for anything. You are responsible for paying for photo shoots, photos and even the comp cards as well as the actual portfolio book. Don’t let anyone tell you any different.
It was true back in the day, 30 years ago in the days of Gia, Kate Moss, Cindy Crawford etc. that the agency would pay for most everything. Now days that has all changed.

]]> By: Erika Hunter http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/2009/10/05/cover-everything-in-your-photography-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-1377 Erika Hunter Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:55:17 +0000 http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/?p=742#comment-1377 Erika Hunter I don't kno i've bin told that there are alot of fake agencies and i was just weary. I was told that if a modelling agency like your look you they have to pay for everything Erika Hunter

I don’t kno i’ve bin told that there are alot of fake agencies and i was just weary. I was told that if a modelling agency like your look you they have to pay for everything

]]> By: Jason Christopher http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/2009/10/05/cover-everything-in-your-photography-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-1374 Jason Christopher Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:39:11 +0000 http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/?p=742#comment-1374 Yes Erika it sure is. Even if you are signed with an agency you still have to pay to start your portfolio. I have a question for you. Why wouldn’t it be right for a model to pay for a test shoot ? Yes Erika it sure is. Even if you are signed with an agency you still have to pay to start your portfolio. I have a question for you.
Why wouldn’t it be right for a model to pay for a test shoot ?

]]> By: Jason Christopher http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/2009/10/05/cover-everything-in-your-photography-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-1372 Jason Christopher Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:33:18 +0000 http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/?p=742#comment-1372 Yes Erika it sure is. Even if you are signed with an agency you still have to pay to start your portfolio. I have a question for you. Why wouldn't it be right for a model to pay for a test shoot ? Yes Erika it sure is. Even if you are signed with an agency you still have to pay to start your portfolio. I have a question for you.
Why wouldn’t it be right for a model to pay for a test shoot ?

]]> By: Erika Hunter http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/2009/10/05/cover-everything-in-your-photography-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-1368 Erika Hunter Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:59:50 +0000 http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/?p=742#comment-1368 when starting out doing modelling for commericials,advertising and music videos) is it right to pay for a test shoot? when starting out doing modelling for commericials,advertising and music videos) is it right to pay for a test shoot?

]]> By: Jason Christopher http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/2009/10/05/cover-everything-in-your-photography-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-961 Jason Christopher Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:06:46 +0000 http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/?p=742#comment-961 I agree totally Steve. These "models" are not real models so they just don't have a clue unfortunately. I agree totally Steve. These “models” are not real models so they just don’t have a clue unfortunately.

]]> By: Steven Starr Eldridge http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/2009/10/05/cover-everything-in-your-photography-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-960 Steven Starr Eldridge Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:40:51 +0000 http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/?p=742#comment-960 Those using model releases (not working with agency models, etc) that are concerned about post hacks...write that into your release as well. I've had (mind you only twice) models take it upon themselves to get artistic with a shot and completely hack it up. My release covers post and usage by the model in addition to the release itself. Mind you...this is not for "paid" work. In that case...it is a flat out contract. Those using model releases (not working with agency models, etc) that are concerned about post hacks…write that into your release as well. I’ve had (mind you only twice) models take it upon themselves to get artistic with a shot and completely hack it up. My release covers post and usage by the model in addition to the release itself. Mind you…this is not for “paid” work. In that case…it is a flat out contract.

]]> By: Jason Christopher http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/2009/10/05/cover-everything-in-your-photography-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-959 Jason Christopher Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:14:46 +0000 http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/?p=742#comment-959 Hey Bauhas, btw what is your first name ? Fashion photographers do different kinds of test shoots. The most popular type of test shoot is when everyone collaborates on a concept. So you discuss the idea with your make up artist, hair person, wardrobe stylist etc. No one gets paid for this kind of shoot because everyone is participating to get usable prints for their books. If retouching needs to be done then everyone pitches in to pay for it. You don't sell the images to the model you give her the images she likes, same with your team. If they want prints then of course you have to charge them for prints. Originally "testing" was when a photographer would shoot a couple rolls of a model that is being considered for a job. In Hollywood it's called a screen test. So you are literally "TESTING" the model to see how she moves and works the clothes. If a photographer wants to try out some new lighting technique he will call an agency and send a model over for free and the benefit is the model will get usable photos. Then we have what's called a "paid model test shoot" more known as a portfolio shoot when the model needs to update her book and she pays the photographer a fee to shoot with him. She gets a disc of all the images and her agent decides where and who retouches them and prints them. I think the whole "testing" idea has been distorted too much. Ok so your other question is about syndicating. This is when a photographer has a stock agency rep them for the stock photos they have. Stock photos are photos that you see for instance in a medical brochure or coupons etc. If you need more explanation just ask me :-) Hey Bauhas, btw what is your first name ?
Fashion photographers do different kinds of test shoots. The most popular type of test shoot is when everyone collaborates on a concept. So you discuss the idea with your make up artist, hair person, wardrobe stylist etc. No one gets paid for this kind of shoot because everyone is participating to get usable prints for their books. If retouching needs to be done then everyone pitches in to pay for it. You don’t sell the images to the model you give her the images she likes, same with your team. If they want prints then of course you have to charge them for prints.
Originally “testing” was when a photographer would shoot a couple rolls of a model that is being considered for a job. In Hollywood it’s called a screen test. So you are literally “TESTING” the model to see how she moves and works the clothes.

If a photographer wants to try out some new lighting technique he will call an agency and send a model over for free and the benefit is the model will get usable photos.
Then we have what’s called a “paid model test shoot” more known as a portfolio shoot when the model needs to update her book and she pays the photographer a fee to shoot with him. She gets a disc of all the images and her agent decides where and who retouches them and prints them.

I think the whole “testing” idea has been distorted too much. Ok so your other question is about syndicating. This is when a photographer has a stock agency rep them for the stock photos they have. Stock photos are photos that you see for instance in a medical brochure or coupons etc.

If you need more explanation just ask me :-)

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